FAO Mark Sun (re: Cubase)

Morbyd

Morbyd

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OK, I installed the full SX3 version of Cubase last night. Took forever, though I admit I was distrcted as while it was installing on my desktop I was struggling with my laptop and the finicky wi-fi print server I got for my birthday :? ... but I digress.

Anyway, I'm planning on giving the program a go tonight. :D Baby steps... probably try to recreate some old songs I did in my early-1990s Mac-using days. Any words of wisdom from a seasoned professional?
 
No real wisdom to impart unless you have a specific task you'd like to perform.. get some cool VSTis and experiment with sounds. Everyone I know works differently within cubase and logic so it's just how you feel comfortable .. if you have anything specific you need to do I might be able to help (or dam0's a for geekier guru than me!)

Good luck dude :)
 
Thank you sir... I will revert with more specific questions as soon as I hit the first couple of brick walls ;)
 
i've been having a lot of fun recently using ableton to create little 8 beat loops on the fly, making tunes up as i go. should give that a shot too morbyd, if something works nicely, you can save the loop, or develop it, or save sections of your work and implement them later in other tracks, programs, mixes, edits etc.
 
you need the full set up to avoid midi drop outs. My Q to you is: why not get Logic, its far better, it has more software installation programmes and its litterally a mini version of Pro-tools. Hardly anyone uses Cubase anymore, not professionally anyway. so i guess it depends on what you wanna do....
 
grr... just went through all the trouble installing it. Which has an easier interface for us lazy folk who want to just try to write songs? Logic or Cubase?
 
Id still upgrade for Logic sweets! its more compatible + secured for the future. If you wanna swap files with others f.i or dump it over to another studio, you can easier convert your files from logic into protools than from cubase. trust me when I say you´ll be better off!
 
lol* if you can afford it. the market price has gone down, but its not worth getting protools unless you plan on making an album, and will be doing a lot of vocal production. Sure, the plug ins for Protools are amazing, but you can settle for the ones in Logic. My producer mates all use Logic and they are more than happy. Only the larger studios I work with, who are doing full sets of vocals and larger arrangements with a lot of live elements, need and use Protools:)
 
Logic 7 only runs on Macs and is about £700 to buy (and I still haven't heard of anyone being able to crack it, in case that's what you're thinking ;) ) - and if you're just using the VSTis inside your computer, then a midi controller keyboard should be sufficient, especially for song writing. In fact if you're focused on writing, I'd go with fatphil and recommend ableton live, it's magnificent for jamming with.

Of course if you want to set up a professional studio it's all about the G5 dual-processor, Logic 7/protools/as many synths as you can buy/valve compressors/mixing desk/etc etc but you could end up spending over £5K just to get started! IG I think you've been a bit spoilt with the fab studios you've worked in!

Btw I still know quite a few dance music producers still using Cubase ;) In fact the one of the most successful producers I know only just switched from Cubase VST to Cubase SX 3!
 
:lol: and get an apogee converter for vocals performance! they are gold! probably right Mark Sun, lol* - I have been privileged with that kind of equiplement, but aknowledge you can do a LOT for far less. As I also mentioned, it really depends on what kind of production and music style youre doing, when you buy equipment. Sure dance and similar can be done on latest Cubase version, and if you have Mac (Lacie pereferably) then go for Logic, someday......
 
yeah try 3.000 for an Neumann or Brauner! lol* you can settle for less though, the AKAI ones are quite alright and they go down to 500 pounds for a decent one.
 
If you're starting out, something like Pro Tools will just confuse you, it's a monster of a piece of software that is used by pro sound engineers.

Even Cubase SX is extremely complex, and unless you know your way around a sequencer, plus knowledge about midi and audio connections (if using hardware) - it's a minefield.

I think something like Ableton is far more user friendly for experimenting with sounds and coming up with ideas - Cubase is more for physically structuring and mixing a composition.


There's very little to choose from between Logic and Cubase - usually personal preference with regards to whether you're PC or Mac. I've used both and they're very similar.

Good luck with it all !

There are some great forums over at cubase.net if you get stuck with anything. Be careful with the site - when you register you need your dongle number, so if you're using cracked software (tut tut ! :p ) - you might want to avoid posting !
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Thanks Stu. I'm guessing the 500 ruble (10 pounds) ubase SX3 installation dvd- and cd-roms most likely lack the necessary dongle number :lol: Ah, the Russian software market!

If Logic is Mac only then it's not an option because I'm on PC (I know, I know...).

I used to do a lot of sequencing in university. Had a Chinese-Russian electronic music professor who, if memory serves, used to hang with John Cage :!: Wish I could meet him now and converse in Russian! I also wish I could remember the name of the sequencing program I used.

I was always more of a songwriter who'd come up with the rhythmns and melodies first, get it all sequenced, then play with the sounds... From your descriptions it sounds like Cubase will suit me just fine.
 
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