McRackin
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some bits taken from the very interesting interview to the nastydirtysexmusic duo
so...since last time we spoke how have things gone? a lot has happened I heard?
Tim :
Well the biggest news in case you haven’t heard is we got totally busted. At the time we were pretty philosophical about it but since the closure of Bora Bora and just about every cool place on the island it’s clear we were just the first in a much wider agenda. I am totally amazed at all this. I mean...this shit is the most self-destructive kind of activity. Don’t the PP, the Consell or whoever and the discos realise they are commiting suicide? I predict next season will be markedly lower in numbers, so much so they may find themselves fighting each other over a couple of thousand visitors instead of a million. In two years not a single cool person will come to Ibiza and as you know, no cool people means Ibiza might as well be Benidorm or Majorca. They are cutting their own arteries. One of the reasons we moved to Space was we were convinced that to attempt to stay one step ahead of a highly trained, practically private police force would prove to be beyond our resources. We’re a free party not international terrorists!! We had to take our sound somewhere. So moving to Space on Sundays is news too...
Jo:
Well our last few weeks at Ciao Rosina before we got busted were fantastic, it was becoming a place for everyone to hang out in, locals, older crowd, hardcore clubbers, post DC10 nutters and pre Manumission loons... the lot. I was having a ball on Talamanca and was pretty gutted when we couldn’t do it there anymore, but confident we would find another place. The few venues we really wanted to move too just didn’t have the proper licenses. and doing some villa parties was a bit too risky also as we didn’t want to chance getting busted again. So to actually end up in Space was pretty cool and it has been truly rockin in the Red Box every week.
Tim:
Truly Rockin’ indeed!
How do you feel about going from free party to major superclubs?
Tim:
Well I would obviously love to be on a beach. We may look into other locations off Ibiza. Surely there is a place in Europe who actually wants people to come and have fun and spend their cash? The current atmosphere makes the island a very unlikely prospect for a future. I was in an internet cafe and the police came in and asked for all the papers and the owner was dumbfounded! It really is like ’1984’ all over the globe now. I really thought Ibiza was beyond that. Can you imagine Ibiza with no Bora Bora? no villa parties? No DC10!?!! no fun? your only option is one of a couple of gigantic clubs whose function is to remove cash from people. When you remove choice from people they never just reduce their options to the new limited choice... they just go and make new choices for themselves! It’s crazy to try control the public, we’re far too unpredictable and fickle. It’s a very bleak future. Before Bora Bora being shut I was fairly optimistic, and I was really surprised as I know the guys who run the whole beach area and they are serious people. Proper local. Now I really think the end is near. Who wants to come to Ibiza now? It’s mind boggling. In answer to the question, I have to say I feel we have to work with the superclubs, we’ve been given no option and that is a very bad situation. I know people think DJs are rich but to be honest, and I’m bursting a big bubble here, most of us are working really hard to stay afloat. 2 or 3 DJs in a lineup a Space might be rich, but the other 10 or so DJs are not at all. It’s funny, you never see any really big DJs ever complain about anything serious. It’s about not rocking the boat innit? also I guess when you see lots of people having a good dance and you are paid a years wages for 2 hours everything DOES seem rosy! Why should they care if Bora Bora is closed? Bora don’t pay for Big DJ wages and limos and shit! I suppose it’s a simple case of survival these days...
Jo:
We would have loved to carry on doing the free parties in fact we were still looking for places up until a week or so ago, Doing Space wasn’t instead of Ciao Rosina we wanted to carry on doing both nights but it wasn’t to be. Being at Space is great, we have the room to do what we want in, we’ve got a great little hardcore of people that come every week and the new faces love it too. Yes it’s a different vibe of course, but we just wanna play our tunes and have fun, and we can do that at Space without getting busted! The fact it’s a new room is cool too, as there are no preconceptions as to what it’s be like, so we’ve created a new thing in Space, it’s cool. But we are doing a free party after DC10 closing on Oct 4th, which promises to be old skool nastydirty!!
Tim:
Ultima Fiesta! last minute directions, maps, massive soundsystem and proper raving. Blash!
How would you summarise the season now it’s nearly done?
Tim:
Well for us it’s been extremely productive. We’ve made quite an impression and a big impact in a short space of time. This was a lot of hard work too! I have to say this season was....eye opening. Definitely eye opening. Ibiza always had this magical quality for me but that’s been dispelled a little by having my eyes opened to the working life here. I am frankly amazed at how ruthless the clubs are with each other and everyone else. I’m amazed but I shouldn’t be. People are the same everywhere and I’ve found this out after 2 decades of travel. I don’t want to sound like a moaning Mary but I had a lot less fun this year, when you are a temporary visitor you tend to go to beaches, eat in restaurants and have a ball. Surving here is less fun altogether. I love it here but I worry I’ll will not want to stay in this current regime. It’d be more fun in North Korea!
Jo:
Yeah it’s been a weird one to be honest, for me not playing Manumission was odd but it meant I had time and energy for other things. The Island took a while to get going, but places like DC10 really rocked. I actually didn’t go out much this year, I can’t believe it’s all over so soon, and a lot of clubs are shutting early. It does seem that things are slowing down, it’s a bit worrying, especailly with the closure of Bora Bora and DC10 terrace, I mean those are the things that I love and that a lot of people come to Ibiza for, it’s a real shame, I don’t know what will happen next year, I reckon the numbers will be even more down.
so...since last time we spoke how have things gone? a lot has happened I heard?
Tim :
Well the biggest news in case you haven’t heard is we got totally busted. At the time we were pretty philosophical about it but since the closure of Bora Bora and just about every cool place on the island it’s clear we were just the first in a much wider agenda. I am totally amazed at all this. I mean...this shit is the most self-destructive kind of activity. Don’t the PP, the Consell or whoever and the discos realise they are commiting suicide? I predict next season will be markedly lower in numbers, so much so they may find themselves fighting each other over a couple of thousand visitors instead of a million. In two years not a single cool person will come to Ibiza and as you know, no cool people means Ibiza might as well be Benidorm or Majorca. They are cutting their own arteries. One of the reasons we moved to Space was we were convinced that to attempt to stay one step ahead of a highly trained, practically private police force would prove to be beyond our resources. We’re a free party not international terrorists!! We had to take our sound somewhere. So moving to Space on Sundays is news too...
Jo:
Well our last few weeks at Ciao Rosina before we got busted were fantastic, it was becoming a place for everyone to hang out in, locals, older crowd, hardcore clubbers, post DC10 nutters and pre Manumission loons... the lot. I was having a ball on Talamanca and was pretty gutted when we couldn’t do it there anymore, but confident we would find another place. The few venues we really wanted to move too just didn’t have the proper licenses. and doing some villa parties was a bit too risky also as we didn’t want to chance getting busted again. So to actually end up in Space was pretty cool and it has been truly rockin in the Red Box every week.
Tim:
Truly Rockin’ indeed!
How do you feel about going from free party to major superclubs?
Tim:
Well I would obviously love to be on a beach. We may look into other locations off Ibiza. Surely there is a place in Europe who actually wants people to come and have fun and spend their cash? The current atmosphere makes the island a very unlikely prospect for a future. I was in an internet cafe and the police came in and asked for all the papers and the owner was dumbfounded! It really is like ’1984’ all over the globe now. I really thought Ibiza was beyond that. Can you imagine Ibiza with no Bora Bora? no villa parties? No DC10!?!! no fun? your only option is one of a couple of gigantic clubs whose function is to remove cash from people. When you remove choice from people they never just reduce their options to the new limited choice... they just go and make new choices for themselves! It’s crazy to try control the public, we’re far too unpredictable and fickle. It’s a very bleak future. Before Bora Bora being shut I was fairly optimistic, and I was really surprised as I know the guys who run the whole beach area and they are serious people. Proper local. Now I really think the end is near. Who wants to come to Ibiza now? It’s mind boggling. In answer to the question, I have to say I feel we have to work with the superclubs, we’ve been given no option and that is a very bad situation. I know people think DJs are rich but to be honest, and I’m bursting a big bubble here, most of us are working really hard to stay afloat. 2 or 3 DJs in a lineup a Space might be rich, but the other 10 or so DJs are not at all. It’s funny, you never see any really big DJs ever complain about anything serious. It’s about not rocking the boat innit? also I guess when you see lots of people having a good dance and you are paid a years wages for 2 hours everything DOES seem rosy! Why should they care if Bora Bora is closed? Bora don’t pay for Big DJ wages and limos and shit! I suppose it’s a simple case of survival these days...
Jo:
We would have loved to carry on doing the free parties in fact we were still looking for places up until a week or so ago, Doing Space wasn’t instead of Ciao Rosina we wanted to carry on doing both nights but it wasn’t to be. Being at Space is great, we have the room to do what we want in, we’ve got a great little hardcore of people that come every week and the new faces love it too. Yes it’s a different vibe of course, but we just wanna play our tunes and have fun, and we can do that at Space without getting busted! The fact it’s a new room is cool too, as there are no preconceptions as to what it’s be like, so we’ve created a new thing in Space, it’s cool. But we are doing a free party after DC10 closing on Oct 4th, which promises to be old skool nastydirty!!
Tim:
Ultima Fiesta! last minute directions, maps, massive soundsystem and proper raving. Blash!
How would you summarise the season now it’s nearly done?
Tim:
Well for us it’s been extremely productive. We’ve made quite an impression and a big impact in a short space of time. This was a lot of hard work too! I have to say this season was....eye opening. Definitely eye opening. Ibiza always had this magical quality for me but that’s been dispelled a little by having my eyes opened to the working life here. I am frankly amazed at how ruthless the clubs are with each other and everyone else. I’m amazed but I shouldn’t be. People are the same everywhere and I’ve found this out after 2 decades of travel. I don’t want to sound like a moaning Mary but I had a lot less fun this year, when you are a temporary visitor you tend to go to beaches, eat in restaurants and have a ball. Surving here is less fun altogether. I love it here but I worry I’ll will not want to stay in this current regime. It’d be more fun in North Korea!
Jo:
Yeah it’s been a weird one to be honest, for me not playing Manumission was odd but it meant I had time and energy for other things. The Island took a while to get going, but places like DC10 really rocked. I actually didn’t go out much this year, I can’t believe it’s all over so soon, and a lot of clubs are shutting early. It does seem that things are slowing down, it’s a bit worrying, especailly with the closure of Bora Bora and DC10 terrace, I mean those are the things that I love and that a lot of people come to Ibiza for, it’s a real shame, I don’t know what will happen next year, I reckon the numbers will be even more down.
