Ken Livingstone

thats a result...he can now go off on a nice 4 week holiday, on full pay..and it wont affect his holiday entitlement and he got to stick it to an obnoxious journalist into the bargain!!
 
I was going to start this thread too - still don't know...just caught the end of sky news at the gym - can someone tell me please?
 
Oh dear.

(I daren't say I've always quite liked him because I don't have the energy to debate congestion charges and the like when we've got limbless cows running around another thread! :lol:)
 
I know you minority types will love him, but Ken Livingstone is an unmitigated (unt.

This case however, is all a silly waste of time that has become a battle of wills that has been blown up out of all proportion.
 
I like him, although I don't think the Congestion charge is doing anything to keep traffic down, it's worse than ever IMO.
 
x-amount said:
I know you minority types will love him, but Ken Livingstone is an unmitigated (unt.

This case however, is all a silly waste of time that has become a battle of wills that has been blown up out of all proportion.
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That disclaimer was specifically written to fend off an angry x-amount too! :roll: :lol:
 
x-amount said:
I'm not angry?! Possibly in your happy go lucky airey fairey pinky world!
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Whatever you may or may not think about the Mayor, I think he has point when he questions the right of an unelected body to suspend him.
 
I'm with BBS.

Don't like him? Don't elect him, but how can you suspend an elected official who didn't break the law? (or is crudely insulting an obnoxious journalist from an obnoxious newspaper considered illegal?)
 
Morbyd said:
I'm with BBS.

Don't like him? Don't elect him, but how can you suspend an elected official who didn't break the law? (or is crudely insulting an obnoxious journalist from an obnoxious newspaper considered illegal?)
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only if theyre jewish.
 
Morbyd said:
I'm with BBS.

Don't like him? Don't elect him, but how can you suspend an elected official who didn't break the law? (or is crudely insulting an obnoxious journalist from an obnoxious newspaper considered illegal?)
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A) I didn't vote him in.

b) The logic he applies to introducing/extending the congestion charge to the West of London (not being a local, you wouldn't know...) was, (after hearing unanimous polls against it) and I quote "well, you voted me in to make these decisions" I.e. "I'm in power (under watered down "maybe manifesto's" (I just made that term up - what a good 'un)) and I can do what I want"

C) Using the above, surely he knew these people had these powers before he entered into it? If not then har bloudy ha.

He's just an awful self serving politician, the very worst I've seen of the genre.

The fixing of the traffic lights in London (to make his Congestion charge feel like a success) was for me the final straw, and truly shows the kind of person he is.

And almost by default he'll snuggle up to any minority/underdog (IRA in the 80's anyone?) like the uber-predictable liberal that he is.

The money spent on publicising Ken Livingstone is a joke aswell. Bringing out laughable "papers" like the Londoner or whatever it was, and sticking his smug face on the side of busses, purely to tell the world how HE was sorting out London.

Which is sometimes a shame, becasue in a way I admire people with that much drive and strength of their convictions. Though he's often so misguided and self serving, he does little good for anyone but himself.
 
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x-amount said:
A) I didn't vote him in.
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You didn't vote him in, but unfortunately for you, your fellow Londoners did!
x-amount said:
b) The logic he applies to introducing/extending the congestion charge to the West of London (not being a local, you wouldn't know...)
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I have friends in West London who were happy about the idea of the congestion charge line moving further out because now they won't have to pay to go downtown (I had this discussion with someone over a year ago so fuzzy on the details but she explained that if you live inside the zone you never pay).

Not judging Ken up or down... just questioning the procedure of this suspension thing. It was all over the news at the weekend.
 
Morbyd said:
You didn't vote him in, but unfortunately for you, your fellow Londoners did!
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I don't understand your point or your logic?

But then used to the Russian political system...
 
Morbyd said:
I have friends in West London who were happy about the idea of the congestion charge line moving further out because now they won't have to pay to go downtown (I had this discussion with someone over a year ago so fuzzy on the details but she explained that if you live inside the zone you never pay).
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Everyone who was affected by the proposed change in the congestion charge in West London had the opportunity to express their vote, I can't remember the exact figure off the top of my head but it was about 75% who opposed it - and what did Ken do, extend the zone and increase the change to £8 a day. So maybe your friend wanted the zone extended but the majority of people living in that area voted against it, so that's why a lot of Londoners have no sympathy for Ken and his ways of working cos this is just one of a number of instances where he's just over-rode the unanimous decision cos what he says is obviously right :roll:
 
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