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Dirty Sanchez
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yipeeeeeeeee 
always nice to beat the franco fascists from madrid
always nice to beat the franco fascists from madrid
Eivissa Lad
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Yeah, Chelsea, Barcalona, AC best clubs in europe
Excuse me!!!!
I am from The Real Madrid and I am not a franco fascist fan. What a nice thing to say, good job I don't think all barça fans are boixos nois some sort of fascist fans from barça. When somebody can generalize this way it is somewhat suspect. Is incredible how people generalize , considering Madrid has a long number of fans this means that are all a fascist just because there is a litle group of fascist that supports R.Madrid team? Nooooo, absolutly not.By the way as I have allready told you in the spanish forum. Congratulation Silvia. You deserve it.
I got it from Dirty Sanchez, just a few of post before mine.
Sorry for anger but I cannot put up with generalization. Not that I think he says it with bad intention, but he could think before saying so. I cannot understand why people is incapable of thinking in what the say and thinking that they migth hurt somebodys feelings.
Cheers.
Sorry for anger but I cannot put up with generalization. Not that I think he says it with bad intention, but he could think before saying so. I cannot understand why people is incapable of thinking in what the say and thinking that they migth hurt somebodys feelings.
Cheers.
Morbyd
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Oh ya... for some reason, the first time I looked through I only saw half his quote.
You're right... to classify all Real fans as fascists is wrong (though there is certainly an element of the fan base that's less than kosher). Madrid does need to do more to remove that bad element though.
You're right... to classify all Real fans as fascists is wrong (though there is certainly an element of the fan base that's less than kosher). Madrid does need to do more to remove that bad element though.
Dirty Sanchez
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of course it would be wrong to suggest the ordinary madrid fans are fascist but there is an element and imo the club does very little to eradicate it!
I was referring to the club though..and it has a dark history
I was referring to the club though..and it has a dark history
About the dark history I think is not fair because how many things has a dark history? church, political parties, countries? how many they have a recent dark history? what fault has the club nowadays to have been supported by Franco? and about the subjet of fanatical fascist I think that ofcourse there is some and should be eradicated but I also know that this sort of fan is all over Europe, there is allways fascist that support futball teams , I don't think that there is a futball club in all the world that can say they don't have any group of fans to be ashamed of . Barça has theirs and Madrid Ultra Sur. I would prefer that Madrid didn't allow this fans, in fact I regret it, but I see that many clubs allow it. Not that I defend it I am absolutly against it but I don't see anybody else critisizing other clubs.
And now I suppose that is time that this post is what is shoul be. Congratulations to all Barça Fans.
Dirty Sanchez
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now who's generalizing?! to say that it's all over Europe is a little weak. The likes of France, Germany and England have gone to great lengths to cut out the scum element from their grounds.. especially on the aspect of racism. Clubs in Spain and Italy do very little... and Madrid get a lot of criticism imo because they are one of the biggest clubs in the world and the amount of abuse they let happen, particularly to opposing black players is shameful.
Look I don't want to discuse with you and I didn't generilizise I said some people in Europe not all Europe, if I really did I am sorry because it wasn't my intetion.
This is what I am arguing about, not anything else. I not denying there is fascist supporting Madrid I am saying is not only us.Not that this fact makes it better it makes it even worst. When I said about Europe I was referring myself to some fines that have been put on some countries by football asociations for racism, and it wasn't only Spain there was some for England playing I think against Bulgary or Hungary, and other countries.
I dont deny England, etc doing quite an effort to erradicate racism from football but you been having this problem for quite a long time, I do not say it myself its what I heard in this forum. So give us the oportunity to erradicate it ,espeacily because us we been having this problem for a very short amount of time so I think is fair that if we didn't been able to stop some racist supporters comming out ( ideal situation) atleast let us the oportunity to do something about it the same that your countries have taken their time to do it.
I have a big desire that things must be done immediately now that we can count with your experience in confroting this situations.You happen to forget ( not that this makes things better, it would be better this things never happened) that this problem is quite new, it havent been happening for years. Emigration in Spain is quite new, we used to be the ones that used to emigrate to England, Germany, so you have a long experience about emigration and policy about what to do about racism, xenophobia that if you know comes normally with emigration. I remember going to Paris about 12-13years ago and being quite surprised of seeing so many black people, in Mallorca there was very few.
I don't know if all clubs in Europe has there own racist fans but it is reasonable that I may think it because I know that in many countrys of Europe there is many racist political parties that are disgracefully having quite success ( France, Germany, Austria, ..) .
In fact I do not know what are we discussing about because we don't disagree so much I think is a matter of shade of meaning or interpretation of a situation. You from the point of a person wich social enviroment had allready overcomed a racist situation and me from the point of a person puzzled from this " new"situation and a Real Madrid supporter .
And now a petition can we leave the subject. This is suppossed to be a post about Barça winning the league and I don't think is fair that we keep going on an on ( I am the first one I admitt it ) and waste SILVIAS VICTORy.
CHEERS dIRTY sANCHEZ( WHAT A NAME
) COME TO MALLORCA AND i WOULD INVITE YOU TO A BIG BEER , A BEER FROM A MADRI SUPPORTER.
KISSES
This is what I am arguing about, not anything else. I not denying there is fascist supporting Madrid I am saying is not only us.Not that this fact makes it better it makes it even worst. When I said about Europe I was referring myself to some fines that have been put on some countries by football asociations for racism, and it wasn't only Spain there was some for England playing I think against Bulgary or Hungary, and other countries.
I dont deny England, etc doing quite an effort to erradicate racism from football but you been having this problem for quite a long time, I do not say it myself its what I heard in this forum. So give us the oportunity to erradicate it ,espeacily because us we been having this problem for a very short amount of time so I think is fair that if we didn't been able to stop some racist supporters comming out ( ideal situation) atleast let us the oportunity to do something about it the same that your countries have taken their time to do it.
I have a big desire that things must be done immediately now that we can count with your experience in confroting this situations.You happen to forget ( not that this makes things better, it would be better this things never happened) that this problem is quite new, it havent been happening for years. Emigration in Spain is quite new, we used to be the ones that used to emigrate to England, Germany, so you have a long experience about emigration and policy about what to do about racism, xenophobia that if you know comes normally with emigration. I remember going to Paris about 12-13years ago and being quite surprised of seeing so many black people, in Mallorca there was very few.
I don't know if all clubs in Europe has there own racist fans but it is reasonable that I may think it because I know that in many countrys of Europe there is many racist political parties that are disgracefully having quite success ( France, Germany, Austria, ..) .
In fact I do not know what are we discussing about because we don't disagree so much I think is a matter of shade of meaning or interpretation of a situation. You from the point of a person wich social enviroment had allready overcomed a racist situation and me from the point of a person puzzled from this " new"situation and a Real Madrid supporter .
And now a petition can we leave the subject. This is suppossed to be a post about Barça winning the league and I don't think is fair that we keep going on an on ( I am the first one I admitt it
) and waste SILVIAS VICTORy.CHEERS dIRTY sANCHEZ( WHAT A NAME
) COME TO MALLORCA AND i WOULD INVITE YOU TO A BIG BEER , A BEER FROM A MADRI SUPPORTER.KISSES
Dirty Sanchez
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hehe okay. let's make a truce. hugs and kisses
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You know yesterday I wanted Barça to win, can you imagine? you see I am also a Real Mallorca supporter and we needed to Barça win Levante because we are in a quite dangerous position because we may go down to the third league
, things get quite positive today because we won and we just need a point to save ourselfs, still two games to go, so I think that we may do it Dirty Sanchez
New Member
fingers crossed for mallorca. they deserve to stay up... 5 or 6 games unbeaten now is impressive!!
Yessssss
You just impressed me, I cannot understand how people manage to be aware of everything that is happening in football leagues. And more if we are speacking of a little club like Mallorca. Really impressed. Many people in this forum seems to Know everything that happens.Etoo one of the big mistakes about Mr Florentino and his megastar policy of running the R.Madrid. Big mistake letting go Etoo, imagine being ours and letting him go . Still is the only reason I been "happy" when Barcelona been winning that Etoo could prove the good player he allways been and know that Florentino keep tossing and turning in his bed. Even so some R. Madrid fans are quite upset of Etoos words I cannot blame him as I know Madrid wasn't very nice in this subjet with him. Besides I also think it was a thing to say in the moment the moment they won.. some say it wasn't political correct but who cares about that in a euphoria moment. Now Barcelona wants him to apologize if is was up to me he wouldn't have to. have a very good memory of when he used to be in Mallorca.
By the way Mallorca need to win the next two games and Levante has to loose the next games to don't go down to the third league
. Still is the only reason I been "happy" when Barcelona been winning that Etoo could prove the good player he allways been and know that Florentino keep tossing and turning in his bed. Even so some R. Madrid fans are quite upset of Etoos words I cannot blame him as I know Madrid wasn't very nice in this subjet with him. Besides I also think it was a thing to say in the moment the moment they won.. some say it wasn't political correct but who cares about that in a euphoria moment. Now Barcelona wants him to apologize if is was up to me he wouldn't have to. have a very good memory of when he used to be in Mallorca. By the way Mallorca need to win the next two games and Levante has to loose the next games to don't go down to the third league
mikkak said:Etoo one of the big mistakes about Mr Florentino and his megastar policy of running the R.Madrid. Big mistake letting go Etoo, imagine being ours and letting him go
By the way Mallorca need to win the next two games and Levante has to loose the next games to don't go down to the third league
I agree with you. He was clearly caught up in the moment when he said it.. who wouldnt be in front of 100,000 mad Barcelona fans and after im sure he'd drunk some Cava???
Levante have Valencia and Villareal still to play, so they will lose, dont worry
