9 ways Ibiza will change in 2018

This is a much more sensible list than the 2017 one and tries to speculate on the music in general with the tech house but being an entry point for new clubbers.

I agree with most of this...I certainly welcome the low BPM desert sound! I'm really amped for Privilege's new lease on life as well. I think #3 with hip hop becoming bigger is sadly true but I wouldn't mind some bigger artists like Jay Z or Kanye doing some weekly thing at Ushuaia or Priv..that'd be huge.

I think along with the desert sound, maybe more experimental electronica can rise up too. I've always thought about Heart hosting some eclectic sounds with the likes of maybe Brian eno or something.

Ibiza should be the home of all music really in the long long loooong run with it still being focused on underground dance.
 
Agree on the whole

elrow ibiza rock , yes im always in
Elrow, Glitterbox, WooMooN, Resistance, Defected and Paradise..
Defected :confused: not really , unless big names i follow there , i didnt see some, this year...

Rap UKG :rolleyes: i got this kind of shit in many famous places in Paris i dont need that in ibiza

more Ethno house , yes :cool:

Older clubbers don’t party as much as the kids and when they do go out:arrow: this doesnt apply to me :lol: trying to party all day and taking care of my tan too :D and my darbuka (instead of 6 pack :lol:)

Feuck the accomodation, the LION don't sleep! :p
 
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Always get slightly suspicious of these things as they are written my people that have a massive vested interested in the said things becoming true. For the last X years EDM has been about to decline, and while I don't claim to know where the sound is at the moment, but it still seems to be packing Ushuaia with nights of pap, so it must be doing something right.

Some good points about the 'death of the night'. This does seem to be an area where EDM, young, old, underground fans have common ground. Post 2007, nobody really could pack Space or any club from 1630 on wards (even Ushuaia doesn't really get packed until 20:00+). Imagine a massive brand like say Cocoon or MusicON changed the game and did a proper full on day time party as their main event. You could argue that Ushuaia in 2013 tried this with 4 more underground day parties - Luciano, LocoDice, Tong, Ants etc - but that was overkill. Before long someone will be suggesting MusicOn goes to Ushuaia (like they have for the last 5 years haha).....
 
The media love a pigeon hole, don’t they? It certainly helps them categorise. Tech house is such a catch all genre. Now it’s being seen as the entry point for some. For others it’s seen as bland monotonous rubbish. For others it’s cutting edge. Reality is it’s not all the same but it is projected as such as it suits a narrative. And it’s always happened - first house, then techno then trance and I’m sure I’ve missed plenty of other genres.

I don’t see edm being in decline. Far from it. Hi wasn’t here last year and this year it landed and provides nights full of the stuff while the other clubs continue to serve up the edm they have in recent times. The dj mag poll confirms the ongoing popularity of that particular genre. Vegas continues to be rammed with the stuff. How anyone can say it’s in decline is beyond me.
 
LuckyBlueSuit said:
The media love a pigeon hole, don’t they? It certainly helps them categorise. Tech house is such a catch all genre. Now it’s being seen as the entry point for some. For others it’s seen as bland monotonous rubbish. For others it’s cutting edge. Reality is it’s not all the same but it is projected as such as it suits a narrative.


I don’t see edm being in decline. Far from it. Hi wasn’t here last year and this year it landed and provides nights full of the stuff while the other clubs continue to serve up the edm they have in recent times. The dj mag poll confirms the ongoing popularity of that particular genre. Vegas continues to be rammed with the stuff. How anyone can say it’s in decline is beyond me.
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Your first point i think is a really good point. DJ's across the board can be considered "tech house". I've seen Dixon play real melodic sets I guess you would consider tech house and then seen sets where he plays a full onslaught of nearly pure techno so not all the same but he'll get labeled tech house because he's not purely house and not purely techno. Some of it is really bad and boring (A lot of Paradise style in my humble opinion) and some is really good (not going to list my DJ preferences) but the point really is tech house is in fact a catch all these days and really doesn't mean anything.

Your second point I do disagree with mostly. Perhaps being in a larger market like New York which is more progressive makes me biased but A LOT of the "EDM" nights are just gone along with the large events as there just isn't the same interest as there was maybe 5 years ago. Regarding the DJ Mag polls and Vegas in general I think what you have is a known names scenario. Especially in Vegas where you have tourists from stretches of America who have no exposure to any "underground" music and dozens of people from California who just come to party for the weekend and aren't super concerned with the music on offer. I've been to Vegas probably around 20 times over the last 10 years, when i first started going there was next to NO "EDM" on offer at all (it was all hip hop/radio music) which has now drastically changed. I just think in the case of Vegas people dont really care whats played, they just want to party. If every club started booking Jamie Jones, Hot Since 82, Marco Carola, etc, etc, you wouldn't see people stop going to clubs on a fri/sat because of the music.
 
Chris L said:
Your first point i think is a really good point. DJ's across the board can be considered "tech house". I've seen Dixon play real melodic sets I guess you would consider tech house and then seen sets where he plays a full onslaught of nearly pure techno so not all the same but he'll get labeled tech house because he's not purely house and not purely techno. Some of it is really bad and boring (A lot of Paradise style in my humble opinion) and some is really good (not going to list my DJ preferences) but the point really is tech house is in fact a catch all these days and really doesn't mean anything.

Your second point I do disagree with mostly. Perhaps being in a larger market like New York which is more progressive makes me biased but A LOT of the "EDM" nights are just gone along with the large events as there just isn't the same interest as there was maybe 5 years ago. Regarding the DJ Mag polls and Vegas in general I think what you have is a known names scenario. Especially in Vegas where you have tourists from stretches of America who have no exposure to any "underground" music and dozens of people from California who just come to party for the weekend and aren't super concerned with the music on offer. I've been to Vegas probably around 20 times over the last 10 years, when i first started going there was next to NO "EDM" on offer at all (it was all hip hop/radio music) which has now drastically changed. I just think in the case of Vegas people dont really care whats played, they just want to party. If every club started booking Jamie Jones, Hot Since 82, Marco Carola, etc, etc, you wouldn't see people stop going to clubs on a fri/sat because of the music.
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I am only basing edm knowledge on what I see in Ibiza, Vegas and dj mag polls. I don’t follow the genre. It’s not a big scene in the uk. It always makes me laugh that USA is tarnished with the edm brush as being the dance sound of choice. Amongst many it probably is but many fail to see what you see and completely fail to recognise where house and techno originated. The USA scene has always been healthy in my adult lifetime and continues to grow from what I can see.
 
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I agree with most. As much as cannot stand rap, grime, and most garage of today, not the past. I can see alot of the younger crowd coming over to see those artists of that genre and being the pinnacle of their trip.

Which is fine people pay there money to see who they want its just a shame that they arn't being brought upon more underground genres and trying something different. Thats what made Ibiza exciting for me, discovering new things!

On a personal note would love more desert sounds and would definatley consider a daytime party if that came about , really enjoyed the sets in the woomoon main room at amnesia closing. A lee burridge all day i dream party at cova santa (if they are still open?) Or km5 would go down a treat for me :cool:
 
BEEFA1 said:
I agree with most. As much as cannot stand rap, grime, and most garage of today, not the past. I can see alot of the younger crowd coming over to see those artists of that genre and being the pinnacle of their trip.

Which is fine people pay there money to see who they want its just a shame that they arn't being brought upon more underground genres and trying something different. Thats what made Ibiza exciting for me, discovering new things!

On a personal note would love more desert sounds and would definatley consider a daytime party if that came about , really enjoyed the sets in the woomoon main room at amnesia closing. A lee burridge all day i dream party at cova santa (if they are still open?) Or km5 would go down a treat for me :cool:
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Agree with your first paragraph. That sound is very much popular in the uk. Especially amongst young people and has been for years. I’m surprised there isn’t more of it in Ibiza.

What mixmag describe as tech house as an entry point is souped up house with big breakdowns that has been the defected, mos, hed kandi sound of Ibiza for the young uk market for two decades. Yet it’s apparently now tech house. It’s certainly not what I recognise tech house to be. A little like when beatport decided edm was progressive house. It just suits the pigeon holing narrative the media and sales force wish to peddle.

Can’t agree with you re desert sounds ......argh! Each to their own though.

I have to laugh that daytime clubbing is almost being projected as a new thing in terms of popularity. It’s as if the 90s didn’t happen.
 
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About the whole EDM in decline thing, it was just a couple of years ago when the major EDM names couldn't fully fill venues and I would think that situation has probably gone worse?

Kim Wrong Un said:
people who use the word 'eclectic' to describe music they don't understand

all of them can go f**k themselves
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Yeah I used that term. Thanks for your mind blowing insight on this topic
 
my post was referring to that article. Not all of what he wrote was invalid but way too many cliches in there for my tastes

someone on here mentioned Dixon - he started out playing jazz, broken beat, disco, african, new wave, synth alongside the house and techno when he was on sonar kollectiv and I preferred him then. how many DJs would dare to do that now? this is where DJing has got so boring - they need to mix it up, make it interesting. how many DJs in Ibiza actually mix it up, go with their gut instinct rather than play court jester to the finger pointers?

the term tech house is pretty meaningless now too. sounds a million miles from anything I heard at the ancestral home of tech house The End (Mr C, Layo & Bushwacka) - it's basically linear dance music that took 5 minutes to cobble together on a laptop in an airport lounge. often it sounds like the same track just pitched up/down for ages until the DJ goes for the drop cos as we know, it ain't no party without a drop....

this probably all reads angrier than intended - I swerve those places so no real biggie for me :lol:
 
LuckyBlueSuit said:
Agree with your first paragraph. That sound is very much popular in the uk. Especially amongst young people and has been for years. I’m surprised there isn’t Mir of it in Ibiza.

What mixmag describe as tech house as an entry point is souped up house with big breakdowns that has been the defected, mos, hed kandi sound of Ibiza for the uk market for two decades. Yet it’s apparently now tech house. It’s certainly not what I recognise tech house to be. A little like when beatport decided edm was progressive house. It just suits the pigeon holing narrative the media and sales force wish to peddle.

Can’t agree with you re desert sounds ......argh! Each to their own though.

I have to laugh that daytime clubbing is almost being projected as a new thing in terms of popularity. It’s as if the 90s didn’t happen.
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Its not my personal favourite music but it is nice as a treat and worked well at bpm earlier in the year. I agree about the tech house comment, calling it tech house when it isnt, it just seems easier for them to class it all as one genre.

It will soon pass though. . ..3 years ago deep house was the big thing that mostly everyone in the UK jumped on until something cool came along
 
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