Technology and the Evolution of music

nyckid

nyckid

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I enjoy all kinds of music but I have a deep love for techno and tech house. With that being said listening to sets that involve this type of music make it very hard for me to listen to djs that just play tracks rather then work them or add edits on the fly to them.

Do you feel mixing track from track in the techno- tech house scene has died? Do you find when djs play this way it is boring? I am all about the vibe thats created when building tracks before they drop am surprised to find some people are bored of it.

I was curious of others opinions.....
 
I hate it when people mess around too much, it makes it difficult for me to switch off and get lost into the sound.
 
we had a big debate with a few friends about this the other day. while I agree that adding a few effects here and there (right amount and right moment) can actually enhance and accentuate a track, I am personally still pretty much a purist. If a track is good enough you don't need to alter it.

The problem is that especially in the tech house sector, a lot of tunes are just too flat/boring...or you could also say they're perfectly made to be literally violated with effects. and so they do. but then again that's also part of every DJs style. people like loco dice and richie hawtin, who won't play one track without working them, couldn't be further away from people like sven vath or dixon who hardly ever do anything to the tracks apart from mixing a nice transition. as I said, I don't mind a bit of effects if it's well done, but a lot of people completely overdo it in my opinion.
 
I agree, if your going to use effects or mess with the music I don't want to be able to know you are doing it. Some very subtle reverb or delay can add to things but it should sound like it's been done in the studio.

IMO the best djs are the ones that can consistently pull the right tunes out at the right time. No need for tricks.
 
Laziness. It's all too easy now. The guys who cut their teeth in the 80s mixing vinyl were forced to innovate and be creative. Derrick May was and forever will be the King.
 
Been thinking about this - it depends what style you mix. Deep music needs to be left alone, lively party music benefits from a bit of interaction. I think anyway.
 
Pablo Montez Junior said:
Laziness. It's all too easy now. The guys who cut their teeth in the 80s mixing vinyl were forced to innovate and be creative. Derrick May was and forever will be the King.
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It really is so easy. I am not a dj but I bought traktor to have fun at home. I am at that age where retirement from clubbing is right around the corner so this controller is my outlet. I was shocked at how easy it is to use efx mix tracks with or without the sync because of the csv
 
stivi said:
we had a big debate with a few friends about this the other day. while I agree that adding a few effects here and there (right amount and right moment) can actually enhance and accentuate a track, I am personally still pretty much a purist. If a track is good enough you don't need to alter it.

The problem is that especially in the tech house sector, a lot of tunes are just too flat/boring...or you could also say they're perfectly made to be literally violated with effects. and so they do. but then again that's also part of every DJs style. people like loco dice and richie hawtin, who won't play one track without working them, couldn't be further away from people like sven vath or dixon who hardly ever do anything to the tracks apart from mixing a nice transition. as I said, I don't mind a bit of effects if it's well done, but a lot of people completely overdo it in my opinion.
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So many people dislike him because of this but IMO I dont think there is a dj out there that can work a track like Richie. The way he plays tracks vs what they actually sound like when you buy them are two different tracks...
 
Only a few djs are either experimental enough to incorporate this in a good sense in their set.

Some just bang out techno but some like to be leaders ...

I just think the good DJs or musicians are experimental and creative ..

Some just stick to the tested and true formula and usually bore people or entertain those that do not care for details , intricacies and overall creativity.

Some people like to get drunk and bang it out. Some like to talk , take the night at their pace and entertain in a novel and unique way. There are differences.

I think there is a movement of commercialism that is taking strength. Because DJs and artist want to make money and be more commercially successful than an underground fad. But artistry should not be forgotten and as sad as it sounds ...usually a lot if artist or real art critics and connoseiurs are drug addicts , drunks, even criminals....or well educated and trained so i guess the point i am trying to make is that there is a stigma attached to being an artist and thus there is often certain market pressures to succeed commercially. Therefore drifting a way from the clichéd notion of being a drunk, drug addict or a criminal... I mean some artist do it for the love and to get notoriety especially in the dj profession which is heavily influenced on aesthetic factors such as image and self marketing. So i think there is a concern among certain DJs to try to reflect certain status , wealth and success back to it's audience.



I think is just a problem of balance.

I typed this half in the bag. Lol

But I know it makes sense. Because I even like some of the cuts from avicci true album. Some of them are OK.
But I like also hearing new approaches to music that are unique and often that type of inspiration is found on hardship or drugs. Or pure genius! Or the path that is attached to creating music through learning in a systematic structure. I think there is room for both types of approaches , the commercial and the less commercial and more grass roots approach often reflected in underground music
 
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now in terms of techno itself...

and to answer the question directly, yes mixing from track to track directly has changed . fo sure!

for sure!


everyone and their brother nowdays wants to have a piece of history and record something that they think is novel.
but only a few of them are good interesting in a commercial sense or overall captivating in order to sell a lot of copies. Or command a lot of attention to the point of creating a little or big cultural artistis revolution for clubbers to pay attention or to seek this type of new novel or "cool" production.

so heck yea!


people want to put their mark on music and try to put their mark on tracks that are already cool , good , perfect, or whatever... some of them succeed some of them do not.

anyways that sounds too involved but it is a natural selection.... if you are entuned to the music...and know what is going on then natural selection happens... you know for example that julien de jewel, kink or marcel dettmann circa 2011 need certain attention over others.

just an exmaple.
 
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